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To all men of letters!

Journal Entry: Sat Apr 6, 2013, 5:16 PM

Hello my fellow deviants! :wave:
I've got a humble message for y'all.

:typerhappy:


Well, acquaintances, allies, buddies, colleagues, compatriots (or not), comrades, and/or familiars... :phew:


I decided to put my knowledge to use, for the benefit of our artistic community and all people out there trying to thrive. :work:
As I've written in my ID, I'm a literature and language teacher. I've been working hard to get my master degree in French Literature and Narrative Theories, which will come latter this year. :library:
And as for this, I thought I could  be at your service to read your literature deviations and post you honest constructive critics based on the best of world wide letters! :woohoo:


But I have to be clear about one thing: I am not the kind of person that only say what you might want to hear. :shrug:
I will never be rude or disrespectful BUT... it is needed of me to say sometimes things you may not agree or accept.
If you ask me for a critic don't be upset if I eventually point an aspect of your composition that needs to be improved.
I'm sure that it's not at all pleasant but it works if you take it seriously and think carefully about the critics. :pc:
I promise to be thoughtful.:tighthug:
Also I will never publish anything without knowing the detailed intention of the author with his/her composition. So, if you decide to ask me, make sure you write me a comment or note explaining how you wanted the result to be in terms of colors and atmosphere, readers response, theme, stylistic effects etc.


This should be a lot of fun! :eager:
The only thing I ask you in return is a donation of how many points you feel like giving.
If you don't have any points to donate you can spread the word, tell friends you think might want to receive an honest useful critic. :megaphone:


Well, I hope to hear from you.
May all your hearts be well-abounding!
:bye:


:please: If you are filling too generous today, give this poor beggar some lovin',1 sad little point would bring great joy! ;P
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NoBuddy-else Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
Too bad I don't have any points. Frankly I don't even have an idea as to how you can get points on this site. Otherwise the idea would have appealed to me greatly. A piece of constructive criticism would be a breath of fresh air. After all, my awesome beta does what she can, but she's too nice, the dear. :no:

As for spreading the word, I'll probably get flamed by someone for saying this but, from what I've seen on the site, too many times those who write don't care about reading other people's writings too because they're only interested in getting praises of their own, not offering an opinion too in exchange. So that kind will surely not need a constructive criticism because they think they're doing just fine as it is, even when their works are riddled with gramar/language/you name it what other kind of mistakes. There, I said it. Now excuse me, I'm just gonna run for my life. See you around! :sprint:
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FranRomano Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
firstly, thank you for faving the journal! :dance:

secondly, like you must have noticed on both journal and comments, i'm not selling critics. the points are a way i offered to those who feel "helped enough" of showing gratitude. so don't worry about them, there are thousands of ways to get to the same result. but, if you still think you need points, i can also give you some tips! ;P

i absolutely know what you're saying about some people's belly-button-universe. that's why i decided to step up for people who know the importance of other's support. if you are bound to write things only you care about and understand then you should lock them on a drawer not post it in a COMMUNITY. in fact, i'm not even sure most people know the meaning of that word. :shrug:

having worked hard for 10 years studying/working with literature, i believe i've been given the right to precise that good writers have worked hard and (by experimenting, trying and failing repeatedly) have intelligently constructed their superiority). no one is born a genius (despite the great efforts of some people to appear so)!

as i believe things have been a little upside-down lately, i just wanted to make sure i was effectively contributing to actual good intelligent writers to make their way through the public. the exact reason why i wrote a journal instead of wandering around deviations writing critics is that i don't want to spend my time (which is already little) with people that would have a quick look at your words and make disrespectful impertinent comments. i want people to come to me with open mind and heart and take it seriously as i do take literature seriously enough to make my living of it.

if you bothered to write me it's because (i wish to believe) you are willing to have someone with a little technical knowledge telling you some things that maybe will help you to improve your art, because you praise it you want it to develop. then i don't see any inconvenience in giving you a hand with whatever project you want to grasp! :work:

if you may choose a piece you like and link it to me, i would take a look and get back to you. but bear in mind that i'm doing this as an in-between activity, it might take a little long to have it done. certainly, it will be done carefully. :sherlock:
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NoBuddy-else Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013
Wow, thank you for spending your time on such an extensive answer. I am sorry for my awful lateness, even if it was for good reasons having to do with real life beyond the screen so to say. But I do appreciate the time and effort you put in this very detailed answer. You maybe thought I sunk to the bottom, not really caring in fact for your kind of help. Well nope.

Now let's see: of points for myself I don't care, like I told you, I wouldn't even know what to do with them. I know you can buy for instance bows for your llamas, heh! And probably do some useful things too, but I survived so far without them well enough. When I said the idea would appeal greatly to me, I was referring to the constructive criticism, not to getting points for myself. :giggle:

I know for instance there are groups on dA that can help those who want favs/points/pageviews/you name it what else. I'm blind to pageviews (you can see it on my page), don't care about buying favs and points... I already said it, I'm not around enough to be able to make good use of them. Thing is it's hardly likely for me to ever make a living out of writing, I suppose, as I already have a job in a different field. But even so, a piece of constructive criticism I will always appreciate, so if you wish to give it a try, then I'll be glad to accept your hand of help and if I hear of someone searching for this kind of help AND having some points to offer as well in return, then be sure I'll pass the word to them too.

Now, I'm not sure... if you posted this on LokiLiterature too, then I take it that you're a Loki fan among other things? I'm asking this on one hand because usually when you offer a critique to a fanwork, you gotta be familiar with the respective universe, otherwise many references that mean something to the fans will be lost for you. On other hand I'm asking this to know what kind of work to refer to you. I have an original story posted on dA too (the others are in my native language and therefore not here). I also have an ongoing Loki fic right now which has reached 14 chapters already, but maybe you would like to see first something shorter, to give you an idea as to how I write and if there’s any hope for me. ;) You have any preference between drama/humor? I can link you to any of these kinds among my works. I should probably provide you a link for each kind and let you choose.

Now, what I do/don't do: I don't do slash. I just don't, period. I also don't write that kind of 'Loki/whoever else + reader' kind of fic, you know, that kind that sounds like: "you enter the room, Loki is there, you walk to him, blah-blah-blah...". I don't know, that kind doesn't even sound to me like literature, more like scenic indications for a theater play. I also don't like to torture my characters thoughtlessly just because I can. It's one thing to put your character in some difficult situations for the benefit of the story's plot and a completely different thing to write stories in which the character you call yourself a fan of is tortured, humiliated and squashed to the ground one way or another, be it physically or just morally only for the lolz. What other things I don't write? Explicit scenes. I just don't, again. I can manage without.

I do like much more to write at first person and I do it quite often, because I've always been interested in the characters' insights. In fact my whole series 'Echoes' consists of separate stories written from various characters' points of view. They were supposed to be really short - and some of them are - but eh, shortness usually eludes me. :( I'm the epic kind, at least in terms of length. :iconheaddeskplz: I tend to happily roam the fields until the cows come home. (Maybe you could help me with that somehow...):please:

Now to link you to something, let's see:
ECHOES - Kiss: [link]
This is listed as drama but not exactly what I'd call drama. I probably have different ideas about that notion, I don't know.
ECHOES - All coodinates are wrong: [link]
This is categorized as 'horror', but not as in gore and stuff, 'horror' as in my idea of full-blown drama.
ECHOES - Crossed over: [link]
This is a humorous crossover between the Thor/Avengers universe and Lord of the Rings universe, because that was what the prompt asked for. Otherwise I don't usually do crossovers, because they complicate things very much and they gotta be exquisitely written to really work other than for a schoollike drabble or something.
ECHOES - Fathers Of The Yule: [link]
This is a relaxed fic with humorous accents, but what makes it different is that it's written from the points of view of all the characters.

Now, your choice is above, in one of those, whichever you may feel like taking. ;) One mention is that I'm not a native English speaker, so there will be inherent mistakes derived from this matter. If, after reading whichever of them you'l choose, you will still wish to give me a hand, I will gladly take it, especially that I'd like to have a good second opinion apart from my beta's regarding the ongoing fic I'm working on right now, that is on 'Round & round on godly matters'.

Take your time, I'm not going anywhere anytime soon. :no: And thank you in advance! Your help will be highly valuable to me. :iconspazhugplz:
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FranRomano Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013
well i was a little worried... last time you said you were running for your life! :laughing:
but don't worry, i know what's like to have a running-around-the-clock life outside in the real world, believe me! :phew:

about your doubts: i subscribed to the group more out of curiosity than anything else (sorry, but it's true! ). despite my high esteem for mythological affairs, i'm not an exquisite fan of Loki's. i know the general aspects of the myths and study them as far as their influence goes, for example on their constitution of archetypes and cultural bounding, specially because mythologies have been an everlast inspiration of literary themes and character build-ups. surely, my references are not the same as yours, although i might acknowledge the modern references for norse symbols, like in marvel heroes, lord of the rings, game of thrones, etc. still i don't think it should be a problem. of course, if you have a creation completely original (all fictional universe, characters, created by you) i'd surly like to peek. by the way, what did you say your mother-language was? :?

also, i like when you say you don't do anything thoughtlessly. that's, in my opinion, one of the most important aspects of writing, you should be work your composition as much consciously as you can, it's almost mathematical, if you don't want to end up writing 50 shades of disgrace! :lmao:
an interesting point i want to get back to in a more opportune time is your writing in what you call first person. it's also an important matter, the perspective. and as for the non-objectiveness you claim to be a problem, i'd say "let's not jump ahead of ourselves!" because it might be in some cases the exact device needed in your composition to attain certain effect.

i'm gonna take a look at your devs and then i get back to you with feedback. and i apologize in advance, i've been in a rush with some papers and i'll probably take a little while to do the trick, if you don't mind. for quick questions, i'm always up and kicking though! ;P
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sonazeforever78 Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Wish I had some points, I'd give some to you. Unfortunately, I don't :( Otherwise I'd have you critique my stuff.
Oh well. It's thoughtful, and I'm all for that. You are a wonderful and generous person, especially with as busy as you are.
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FranRomano Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
don't let the gloom let you down kid! :aww:
if you really take this writing thing seriously, like "it's my life project to become a professional writer" thing, i would sure love to help you. :nod:
i'm not marketing points, it's just that anything that comes free is not properly appreciated. but you can help me spread the idea if you feel i did you any good.

work hard :strong: and never give up!
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sonazeforever78 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Wow, thanks! And I will sure help spread the word!
I'll never give up!
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FranRomano Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
ok, then pick the one you care the most and link it to me. i'll have a closer look and tell you what i think, then i can write your critic. :aww:
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FranRomano Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
ok, then pick the one you care the most and link it to me. i'll have a closer look and tell you what i think, then i can write your critic. :aww:
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sonazeforever78 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you so much! Here, I wrote this last year for school, and I thought it was pretty good. [link]
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